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thegrrrl2002So, since my mind's been lingering pleasantly in the gutter lately (yeah, I know, how is that any different than usual?), and in honor of the upcoming SG1 premiere here in the US (yay!) I thought I'd throw a question out there regarding slashy sex scenes:
Is there any type of sex or scenario that as a reader, you'd really like to see but haven't found yet? Or if you are a writer, that you'd like to write but just can't quite figure out a good way to pull it off, while keeping everyone in character? It could be a real nasty kink or just a particular scenario (mmm, public sex, *g*) or type of position or a threesome or toys or just something sweet and simple. I'm just wondering what kind of naughty, gulty pleasure stuff is lurking in everybody else's minds.
Here's mine: I've been trying to come up with a good way to write a Jack/Daniel/Daniel/Daniel/Daniel etc .fic. I'd love to do it, but I just can't come up with a scenario I can work with. I want them to be AU Daniels, coming through a quantum mirror, but after that it falls apart. Why are they all there? Where's the rest of their teams? How do I get rid of Teal'c and Sam, especially if they're off-world? And how would all those Daniels convince Jack to get down and dirty with them? (Funny, I seem to have no trouble believing that the Daniels would want to do it.) I can usually come up with plausible explanations for one or two of my objections, but after that it kind of comes apart. I don't want to go down the 'aliens made them do it' route, either. I just want it to be part of a fairly decent, in-character, somewhat plausible story, and I can't make it work, damn it.
But I'd love to do it. Because it would be fun and dirty and I think Jack would really, really like it.
Maybe one of these days.
Now come on, you want to share, I know it. Tell me yours.
Is there any type of sex or scenario that as a reader, you'd really like to see but haven't found yet? Or if you are a writer, that you'd like to write but just can't quite figure out a good way to pull it off, while keeping everyone in character? It could be a real nasty kink or just a particular scenario (mmm, public sex, *g*) or type of position or a threesome or toys or just something sweet and simple. I'm just wondering what kind of naughty, gulty pleasure stuff is lurking in everybody else's minds.
Here's mine: I've been trying to come up with a good way to write a Jack/Daniel/Daniel/Daniel/Daniel etc .fic. I'd love to do it, but I just can't come up with a scenario I can work with. I want them to be AU Daniels, coming through a quantum mirror, but after that it falls apart. Why are they all there? Where's the rest of their teams? How do I get rid of Teal'c and Sam, especially if they're off-world? And how would all those Daniels convince Jack to get down and dirty with them? (Funny, I seem to have no trouble believing that the Daniels would want to do it.) I can usually come up with plausible explanations for one or two of my objections, but after that it kind of comes apart. I don't want to go down the 'aliens made them do it' route, either. I just want it to be part of a fairly decent, in-character, somewhat plausible story, and I can't make it work, damn it.
But I'd love to do it. Because it would be fun and dirty and I think Jack would really, really like it.
Maybe one of these days.
Now come on, you want to share, I know it. Tell me yours.
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Date: 2004-07-08 06:46 pm (UTC)OoO goodness!!! OoO
well y'know I love the paint thang, but you did that with valentine, and the shadow and the soul one, OOH! and the um! Daniel ritual thing, that was something 8-0 ::blush:: OMG! all coming back to me now...stop me..LOL
I love the body swap idea, Jack in daniel in Jack and Daniel in Jack in daniel 8-/ just confused myself *-)) but Nicci promised the slashy sequel didn't she 8-))
But Jack/Daniel/Daniel/Daniel/Daniel OoO
ooh! well i'm definatly looking forward to that one 8-DD hope it comes together for
themyou *-) not much help am I?....sorry 8-/
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Date: 2004-07-08 06:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-08 07:22 pm (UTC)in an AU where daniel's the last surviving member of SG1, he bullies Hammond into letting him go through the mirror to get some freaking help because they are Up Against It. Based on quick surveys of "near miss" universes, he picks one where he can SEE himself and takes the plunge, figuring hey, who easier to convince than himself?
But oops, that Daniel's only a civilian consultant. He doesn't know anything classified and has never been through the gate. In that universe McKay managed to jury-rig a dialing device but he has to stay home too - Sam never made it out of the Pentagon and Hardass!Jack only takes special-ops trained military through the gate. His team does not have a good survival rate. They shot & killed Teal'c on the first mission out.
So this Daniel is pretty much whipped, but he's convinced by Up Against It!Daniel that, while they can't use the gate to get help (can't really dial that undetected), they can and should use the mirror - which isn't guarded or anything, Civilian!Daniel is just too whipped to go against the military to use it.
So they do, and they wind up in Our Universe, looking for help for Up Against It!Daniel's Universe.
Easiest way to work it from there is that they stumble into Established Relationship!Jack & Daniel, notice the unrelenting hotness of ER!Jack (so different from Hardass!Jack and Dead!Jack), and work out an agreement with ER!Daniel to give Jack a hell of a birthday present.
There. I bet there's a hundred fics just like it but this one is yours. Go forth and make it hot.
Notice I have completely avoided the question of what I find hot, which I've mostly WRITTEN, but I'm trying to gear up for an absolutely filthy Jack/Sam/Daniel threesome for
Jack. Daniel. Naked.
Date: 2004-07-08 07:30 pm (UTC)See, I'm easy to please.
Re: Jack. Daniel. Naked.
Date: 2004-07-08 07:35 pm (UTC)I love it!
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Date: 2004-07-08 07:37 pm (UTC)I would adore a realistic, in character, make-me-believe-this-because-it's-TWUE! story of this nature between Jack and Daniel - our Jack and Daniel, the real guys. No holds barred, any games you like, I don't care who's on top. If there's one out there I haven't read yet, I'd love to know about it. If anyone feels like writing one, I have a 3.5 oz bar of Ghirardelli Milk Chocolate with Double Chocolate Filling on my desk that I am no longer allowed to eat. Send me story and mailing address and this could all be yours...
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Date: 2004-07-08 07:39 pm (UTC)I like the idea, though--a bossy Daniel finds a push-over Daniel and drags him through to yet another universe. Could work. Maybe they pick up another Daniel along the way. Pack mentality and all that.
And I'm sure your Jack/Sam/Daniel threesome is going to be wicked hot. Looking forward to it!
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Date: 2004-07-08 07:41 pm (UTC)Body swapping is always fun. And sheesh, I haven't read nicci's fic yet! Glad to hear there's a slashy sequel, though. It's all good. *g*
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Date: 2004-07-08 07:53 pm (UTC)And Daniel being manipulative and sneaky.
Re: Jack. Daniel. Naked.
Date: 2004-07-08 08:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-08 08:08 pm (UTC)theirloveissodeep.
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Date: 2004-07-08 08:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-07-08 08:11 pm (UTC)Um, I've been wanting to read/write Jack/Daniel/Teal'c. I can't see Jack/Teal'c in that light, although they seem pretty close, so I get to picture two mouths and a whole bunch of hands roaming over Daniel's body. But then I always think that Sam gets left out, so then it turns into Jack/Daniel/Teal'c/Sam on some off-world stint where their work was done and they didn't have anything else to do for *hours*... nothing raunchy, just a bunch of what-ifs/dares turning into, "well we just did that." ;) Then I think, that's just way too many limbs, and although they're that close and crazy, can they really be *that* close? So I start thinking about Daniel/Teal'c while Jack and Sam sit on watch...erm, not watching Daniel/Teal'c... although...
Then I get into that whole Jack will one day show his love to Daniel, but till then Daniel will have some fun with Teal'c.
For your fic, how about:
Jack is missing 'his' Daniel (possibly Season 6 fic?). He manages to re-activate the time-loop machine on that planet from Window of Opportunity and uses the 10hr of each loop to jump through the AU mirror with a personal mission to get a different Daniel into bed... or couch... or even a table. Convincing some Daniel's into it could be fun. ;) If he times it right, he could make sure that he's in the storage room that is housing the mirror that he wants to jump through, at the beginning of each loop. As well, stack lots of different foods in a corner of that storage room too, so he doesn't wind up with that fruit loops incident again, lol.
As long as he could keep the SGC from de-activating the time machine within the first ten hours, then the SGC won't know that they're going through the loop process over and over again, until Jack gets rid of that itch of his. ;)
Or, it could be part of the WoO duration, where Daniel just happens to be with Teal'c in his universe at this moment of time, and Jack needs to find his own Daniel. *eg*
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Date: 2004-07-08 08:13 pm (UTC)*feels the pressure, feels it's inevitable that if people KNOW IT'S COMING, it will suck*
i think we know who wants the four daniels. heh. and it ain't jack. heh.
i think a daniel per nipple is greedy, and you can tell anyone you like that i said so. 8-)
*knows she will lie awake in bed tonight choreographing the jack/daniel/daniel/daniel/daniel sex scene*
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Date: 2004-07-08 08:13 pm (UTC)Definitely. And most of what is out there doesn't have enough work put into it to make it more than a pleasant PWP. I really want to see the process. I'd especially love to see something set S7 or later and that I haven't seen at all. There is just so much chemistry at the end of Changeling that I want to see realized in text. That's what I want for rare scenarios.
What I want for pure itch-scratching is something that is both dark and kinky. There is a fair amount of light fluffy kink in this fandom and a fair amount of dark but very little together, at least as dark as I'd like. Oh, and no recovery as part of the fic. Recovery fic almost always turns into a wallow and I just can't handle those.
I'd also be interested in a Jack-as-slave storyline of a level of realism equal to the show's or a bit more. AU or more canonical would be fine.
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Date: 2004-07-08 08:19 pm (UTC)As for my kinks: (quickly, because this is more fun than family stuff)
-Swimming pool sex. You had good "From Here to Eternity" surf sex in that lost island fic of yours (hmm, must reread that one.) I also want swimming pool sex. Or hot tub sex.
-Role play. I'm not sure which kind (any, really) but good, well-written NC-17 role playing. That's not a rape simulation.
-Archer/Tucker specific: a fic in which Tucker gets Archer into bondage. There was one like that, but it was Archer's idea and Emotional Baggage Tucker. I just want sex. (Don't we all.)
And no, I haven't been waiting for an opportunity to voice these desires...
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Date: 2004-07-08 08:42 pm (UTC)Pretty much all my little wishes and kinks have been written already. Most have been done badly, tho. I still want a story where the Jack of our world stumbles on the Jack and Daniel of a quantum world (in some plausible way that I can't quite figure out yet) and they are bumping uglies in raw, graphic detail, lots of raw sexuality, and his own foundations are shaken by what he sees. In fact, I have about a million quantum mirror scenarios in my head. But I don't really want to write them, just read them. I'm selfish like that. *g*
I'm intrigued by the logistics of this...
Date: 2004-07-08 09:15 pm (UTC)love to do it, but I just can't come up with a scenario I can work with. I want them to be AU Daniels, coming through a quantum mirror, but after that it falls apart.
Ooh, I just love a challenge. How 'bout this?
UST-only Jack&Daniel travel through the quantum mirror to a world in which a Rogue!Daniel (i.e., a Daniel who worked with the Stargate program until he butted heads with the wrong people and had to escape offworld through the mirror) has been recruiting (so far, two) other Rogue!Daniels from other AUs to form a crack quantum-universe-jumping, freedom-fighting team. Each of the Rogue!Daniels comes from a universe in which he was in a spectacularly intense established relationship with Jack that went terribly, terribly wrong (death, betrayal, etc.) but for each of them it happened at a different point in the timeline. So the team of Rogue!Daniels could, for example, consist of:
(As-yet-unseen) S13 Rogue!Daniel, assisted by
Bitter S5 Rogue!Daniel, and
Pouty Jailbait S1 Rogue!Daniel
So, each of the Rogue!Daniels is carrying a serious torch for his lost Jack...when their temporary headquarters is penetrated by UST-only!Jack&Daniel.
And smutfic, as they say, ensues. ;-)
You can get rid of Carter and Teal'c by having the former injured in the initial Mexican standoff between all parties. Then, of course, Teal'c would have to either keep watch over her or carry her back to the SGC for medical help. I'd suggest the former, so that you can write a few scenes of Protective!Teal'c and DoingQuantumCalculationsEvenWhileSeverelyWounded!Carter as palate-cleansers between the various courses of smut. The resulting Carter'sGoingToDieIn48HoursIfWe Don't Get Out Of Here! crisis would helpfully ratchet up the tension of the unfolding of the how would all those Daniels convince Jack to get down and dirty with them?--as would an impending or intermittent outside attack on the Rogue!Daniels' HQ...
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Date: 2004-07-08 09:23 pm (UTC)Specific enough for you? *g*
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Date: 2004-07-08 10:15 pm (UTC)I would love to write a S/J/D threesome. Can't quite work out how, in the current 'verse.
I would love to read your J/D/D/D/D...so get to work. Can I suggest an alien mindfuck? Four guys that look like Daniel that aren't actually Daniel at all. Part of some freakish experiment on human nature. And Jack thinks there's been a quantum mirror involved but there hasn't. And Jack spends a long time trying to resist but it doesn't work out. Because Daniel is hot and four Daniels is even hottter. Then Daniel could find out and there could be angst. Mmmmn angst.
Sam and Teal'c can be somewhere else undergoing their own mindfuck.
And then the alien Daniels could call Jack "sir" a lot while naked, and maybe no one else would read it but I would be happy. It's really all about making me happy. :)
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Date: 2004-07-08 11:57 pm (UTC)What floats MY boat? You really don't want me to go there. *g* I have a particular fondness for bottom-Jack, but not the wimpy/weepy version. And if some bondage and a sex toy or two sneak in...
Threesomes are fun to read, but damned hard to write, I've found.
And god help me, but I enjoy the hell out of first-time fics. Can't explain it, but there it is. And humor, if they aren't having fun, neither do I. That's one thing I really enjoy about your stories Grrrl, your boys are always having so much fun I can't help but be drawn into it, too. But it's not just sex, the emotion has to be there too.
And it's really waaaay too late for me to still be up and coherent.