Supernatural 5.19

[thegrrrl2002]

First of all:

GABRIEL!!!!

::cries::

You were funny and adorable even though you killed a lot of people as the Trickster. I'm going to miss you. A lot. I grow weary of the show killing off characters that I like. It's lost its effectiveness and now just annoys me. Find another way to be dramatic, okay?

I'm not sure how I feel about this ep. I enjoyed watching it, and the Gabriel/Lucifer scene at the end was very powerful. The actors rocked it. But the tone of the whole ep seemed off to me, after the events of the previous one. I'm glad to see Dean back in fine form again but it all seemed a little too upbeat, considering the circumstances. They were adorable but the mood was jarring. On the other hand, I loved that the pagan gods had a summit meeting. They were awesome. Especially Kali. And Gabriel hiding in Dean's car will never not be funny. ::sniffles:: Loved all the scenes with Dean and Gabriel, and I loved Dean blustering his way through the talk with the gods. Talk about flying by the seat of his pants. And okay, I loved every scene with Gabriel, because I've developed this sort of thing for RSJ. Yum.

It was funny in an odd way to see Sam and Dean so scared of the gods. They were freaked out by the situation they were in, different from the grim determination we've seen in the previous eps.

Lucifer cold-heartedly killing off the gods was downright chilling.

Also, kudos once again to the set designers. That was one fabulous mid-century hotel. I drooled over the sputnik chandeliers in the meeting room.

Horsemen's rings! I'm glad they ended up meaning something. Keys to Lucifer's cage, although why the horsemen would have them doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me at the moment.

As for the ending, I adore Matt Frewer (he's always be Max Headroom to me) but, eeew, going for the gross-out factor now, are we? I may not be able to watch any of his scenes.

We'd better see Castiel soon. And it had better not be to kill him off, because I will never ever forgive the show if it does that. ::shakes fist::

Comments

[wpadmirer.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the grossness of Pestilence is definitely hard to take. EWWWWWW. But I do like Matt Frewer.

WP

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Matt Frewer is awesome. I've had a crush on him since the '80's. *g*

But....ewwwwww!

[eretria.livejournal.com]

No Cas?
Hm, well, as much as it kills me that we don't know where and how he is, that leaves more room for fic.
Nevertheless, man, I need to get my hands on the episode quick ... Woe for not bein able to use Hulu over here!

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Oh no! I hope you find a download soon!

I was so bummed when I didn't see Misha's name in the credits.

[eretria.livejournal.com]

I did find one - well, was kindly handed one is more like it.

You're right about the rather upbeat beginning of the episode. And while yes, I agree that we can't have doom and gloom all the time, it seemed rather bizarre to me that this time it was Sam who wanted to go on and Dean who wanted to take a break. Don't get me wrong, he more than deserves one, but seriously? This is a family matter. Finding Adam and Cas is a family matter (nice,and quite telling by the way, that Cas was named before Adam), and Dean normally drops everything to save family. So, yes, there was a rather weird dissonance to his behaviour. Even if it was good to see him almost rejuvenated.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Dean just seemed overly perky, didn't he? Which is very charming and entertaining but the whole "we deserve a night off" business didn't work for me. Clumsy plotting on the part of the writers, methinks.

[risha]

I actually, IRL gagged several times during Matt's scene. I adore him, but I really, really hope they turn down the snot in the actual episode. :)

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Oh god yes. I cringed during the scene. Way way past my tolerance for snot. Eeeewwww!!!

[kaziwren.livejournal.com]

Max Headroom... er I mean, Matt Frewer was great to see, but FFS.... I hate snot! Seriously, that is not going to make the next ep easy to watch.

And HELLO.....


BAMF!LUCIFER is SEXY in a VERY disturbing way. He muthfuckin' killed ODIN, BIATCHES!

Damnit.

*hellbound*

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

I'll be watching the next ep with my hands over my eyes. Eeek! Just too gross for words!

And oh god yes I'm finding Lucifer terribly sexy, and that disturbs me. A lot. So not right. *g*

[kaziwren.livejournal.com]

Does this mean we're secretly "demons"? Are our fan girl souls damned? Will Cas forgive us... or loan us to his brother? ;)

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

I think as long as Dean keeps Cas busy (ahem) Cas won't even notice. *g*

[magickaldreamer.livejournal.com]

I've had a huge thing for RSJ ever since Mystery Spot (which I somehow managed to see BEFORE his first episode), so I was VERY sad last night. But, y'know, well-done, I say.

I loved that the pagan gods had a summit meeting.

Was I the only one reminded of SG-1's Summit? I had to laugh.

Lucifer was sufficiently terrifying (just so COLD), especially when he killed Gabriel. I mean, you could tell that he was emotionally affected by it, but idk, knowing that he would.

Pestilence was the grossest thing I've ever seen, oh my gosh. Eurgh.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

He was a real surprise in Mystery Spot - I hadn't caught his name in the credits when I watched it. I was so tickled to see him again!

At least he went out in a noble way, but hell, I wish he hadn't! Oh, Gabriel, I'm going to miss your smirky grin!

I'm sort of dreading next weeks ep, if Pestilence going to be as gross and as full of snot as he was here. ::cringes::

[fanaddict.livejournal.com]

But the tone of the whole ep seemed off to me, after the events of the previous one.

I thought it was poorly thought out, in terms of the writing. It was such a great set up (SPN does American Gods), and then a lot of talk followed by meaningless deaths. I mean, I loved the concept of a gods summit, and the inherent colonialism comparison between Christin western religions and non-western religions (capped by Lucifer just taking what he wanted - their lives). But it didn't work because it never really went anywhere, and I was unhappy they went with killing everyone (except Kali) off rather than working to keep non-western religions alive. Plus, the one heroic death is... an angel with brother issues. It just was such a wide open concept with so many possibilities, and instead they naval-gazed their way back to brother killing brother and heaven vs hell.

Matt Frewer is awesome though, and that will be cool. I was laughing at his scene because it was over the top gross.

I know I'm in the minority, but I'm ok with Cas dying if it's for a good cause. I like the actor/character, but not if he's kept on in an inorganic manner. I just don't want him to die meaninglessly, which so many have on this show.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Agreed, it would have been a much better ep if the gods hadn't been reduced to the standard human-eating SPN monster-of-the-week. They could have gone so many places with the concept, but...nothing. And yeah, the brothers with issues thing has been hammered home already. We get it, there was no need for Gabriel to die for it. ::grumbles::

Watching Matt Frewer's scenes made me wish I wasn't watching in HD. And I hardly ever feel that way about SPN. *g*

[sheron]

"the mood was jarring."

I thought it was forcefully optimistic the way Dean used to be about Sam's chances. I have been rewatching SPN from s1 and am now through s2, and this is exactly how he acted originally when he found out about the demon blood and the YED plans, and so forth.
[eta: he actually asks Sam several times to just take a break from hunting, just relax for a while. since about s2 it's always Dean who wants to take a break, he talks about the Grand Canyon and so forth. It's totally in character for him, imo]

Just watched the scene by the car at the end of s2 when he's killed the YED and has sold his soul, and they have work to do and he grins. It's a very Dean thing to do, once he commits to the course of action that he feels is correct, to just go for it.

I think that part of his low level depression so far this season has been due to being unable to decide on a right course of action and feeling walled in. Now that he's decided that he's not letting Sammy down, he's fully committed. Imho!

And yes, Gabriel. All I know is if God could spontaneously ressurect Cas, he can do it for Gabriel too. There must be fic about this!

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

I see what you mean about Dean (I'm in mid-S1 rewatching, myself) he can definitely be optimistic - even if it's just for Sam's sake - but I guess I needed more of a segue between the eps. Or maybe more of a sense of urgency in this one? Granted, Dean did say they checked with all their sources and Bobby was putting out feelers but it felt very clumsy to me.

Seems like the story moved so slow earlier in the season and now they're rushing things. Or maybe I just don't want the season to end!

[eretria.livejournal.com]

All I know is if God could spontaneously ressurect Cas, he can do it for Gabriel too.

Your brain works lovely ways. I'll cling to this hope now. Because, seriously, Gabriel's death was rather pointless at this point of the story. There would have been other ways to convey the ring message than to kill him.

[tabby333.livejournal.com]

Being just back from vacation, I haven't seen the whole episode. I'm looking forward to it, even if Castiel isn't about. I love Sam and Dean but I don't know that I'll be able to watch if Castiel dies. Sigh (okay, I probably will. But not without some sadness). The rebel angels don't seem to have a good survival rate, so my hopes aren't high.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean - I'm very pissed at the possibility of them killing off Cas, and I want to give up on the show if they do. But I'll probably end up watching S6 anyway. Gah. The tension is killing me!