Sci-fi Friday thoughts

[thegrrrl2002]

Mobius II

This was a very fun ep for me, because I decided not to take it too seriously. Time travel always makes my head hurt when I think too hard about it, because--yo, paradox! So I just turned that part of my brain off and squeed. There was a lot to squee about too, dorky Daniel and Sam were so damn cute together. Very cute. Sam got a great line with the explosives bit, and that made me very happy. Dorky Daniel got to manhandle Jack while in prison, and, of course, that really, really made me happy. I was even happy to see that he couldn't see without his glasses. Thank you! About time someone noticed that. I was only mildly spoiled for the ep, so I had no idea Daniel had gotten goa'ulded--cool! Creepy and sad, but cool. Daniel getting killed doesn't quite have the same impact after the billionth time, so I can safely say 'cool' about it without feeling heartless.

While a lot of the ep was played for laughs, I thought AU Teal'c really had a heartfelt moment there, watching the video of himself. You could see it all in his face, as stoic as he is, that he was seeing himself in a life he never dared dream of. It was a fantastic moment.

Back to earth's past again, and Jack gets a great line with the "B.C.?" bit. That was very cute. Almost as cute as "there's a cloaking device?" exchange between him and Daniel.

Daniel, in robes. Guh.

I thought I'd be more upset by the thought that the original Teal'c, Jack and Sam were killed in the uprising, but for some reason it didn't seem real to me. I felt distanced enough by it, and plus, time travel handwaving--I just felt like it was part of the AU timeline to lose them and I knew everything would be reset by the end, so...no big deal. Which is kind of weird for me. And I'm perfectly willing to accept that the team we see at the is our team, that everything has been reset to before the events in "Mobius I". Even with the fish. Hell, I'm easy.

As for the AU shippy stuff--well, surprisingly enough, I thought it was kind of cute. Maybe because it was AU, maybe it was because for once it wasn't Jack looking vaguely uncomfortable and Sam hemming and hawing. They both were on board with it. And it was AU. *g* And Jack got to make intimations about Daniel's sexuality. ::dies::

I thought the ending to the AU portion was a little sudden--I had been thinking that the rebellion would have to fail in order for the gate to remain on Earth. But I guess just getting the cloak to work was sufficient to change to the timeline back to where it was before. (And you can guess how much I loved Jack pointing out that the jumper goes though the gate, so you can't put the gate in the jumper.)

Anyway, I'm thinking this ep should have been a three-parter.





The Siege II

Damn you, cliffhanger!

A big action ep, and it really worked for me. I just loved the swooping from one part of the city to another. That was new and fun and really gave me the impression that they were spread out over the city. And we get the marines coming in to save the day. Maybe. Cocky Everett didn't annoy me as much as he probably should have. He was pretty over-the-top, sure, but he kind of amused me after a while. I did love the scene in the map room with Sheppard, when he gave Sheppard crap about Sumner. And poor Sheppard, he thinks about it every night? Clearly Rodney has to keep him busier in bed.

Rodney was fabulous telling Everett to shut up. And the scientist bitch session in the beginning was even more fabulous. "They don't need us, until they need us."

Weir got to do something, finally! The whole Genii thing seemed squeezed in there to give Weir something to do. I'm thinking they could have used overloaded naquada generators, as in "Hot Zone", but still, I liked it. Especially since we had a lovely scene with Rodney and Zelenka putting the final touches on the bombs. ::geek love::

I thought Sheppard was remarkably restrained about the space mines. I would have been all "gee, now it would have been nice to hold some of them back now, wouldn't it? But no, SOMEONE insisted we deploy them all...".

Yeah, that's why I'd never make it in the military.

Sheppard was also fun to watch in those early scene with Everett, when he insisted Weir be involved. He can do the "yes, sir" thing and make it sound like an insult, can't he? I loved getting to see that side of him, the 'taking orders not just because you're in charge, but because I agree that it's a good idea' attitude again. We haven't seen that aspect of his personality since "The Rising", and his interactions with Sumner.

Then there was the ending, and the damn "So long, Rodney", which broke my heart the first time I saw it, and every time after. Rodney with his big hurty eyes, yes, let's do a closeup and break my heart again. ::grumbles::

This was awfully rambly, wasn't it? I haven't even mentioned Zelenka yet, standing there in the jumper bay, looking so...vulnerable. So many good bits, such great character moments for an ep filled with battle scenes, and I thought the pacing was really well done.

And then John said "So long, Rodney" and I was sad. ::sniffles::

Post-ep fics, anyone?

Comments

[mmmchelle.livejournal.com]

Gate ship!

It's a ship; it goes through the gate. I thought it was clever.

He really needs to let John be the one who names things. Hmmm, there needs to be story with AU Rodney meeting an AU John, and then getting his brains fucked out.

Post-ep fics, anyone?

It's your turn for that, sweetie.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Gate ship. ::giggles::

I so need an icon of Rodney in his orange sweater.

there needs to be story with AU Rodney meeting an AU John, and then getting his brains fucked out.

I think Danvers is handling those. *g* But yeah, I love the AU thing with them for some reason.

And I do want to write a post-ep fic, but I'm already working on a fic, and you know how I am, my brain can't handle more than one at a time! But maybe...you know, Rodney is so upset, and John's so scared...and I don't even want to think about it. "Two Weeks" was hard enough.

[mmmchelle.livejournal.com]

I was thinking of this specific AU. John is assigned to Cheyenne Mountain. He meets Rodney. They go out for lemon chicken and end up having OJ together in the morning.

[tafkarfanfic.livejournal.com]

Tell me about those post-ep fics when you get them. Youv'e read Otter's, and "The Secret Life of Scientists", yeah?

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Read those, yes, I particularly liked Otter's. Very nicely done. Brigid wrote a couple of snippets, as did mmmchelle, and I loved those, but I've read them, and I want more!!

I want schmoop. ::is shameless::

[skater-g8r.livejournal.com]

I'm perfectly willing to accept that the team we see at the is our team, that everything has been reset to before the events in "Mobius I". Even with the fish. Hell, I'm easy.

i tore myself up over that bloody fish, and its meaning! and stupid me! trying to actually figure out the time thing! I've kinda given up now! wish someone had told me its like near impossible! although I'm still not feeling that is *our* SG1 at the end, but i guess S9 will seal it for me! and I *am* sad/confusd/upset/distraught that *our* SG1 died/abandoned in the past! ::sniffles::

but brightside!! YAY I can use my moebius icons freely now *bg*

and Siege II? i really enjoyed it, it was exciting, loved the 'drama'! and 'action' SG should of had more of that! although that commentary scared me now saying, nothings assured!! O.O

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Love the icon! LOL!

I saw the fish thing as a bit of a tweak to the audience, but not as anything that carried a huge meaning. I couldn't take the ep too seriously, because, well, TimeTravel. It just can't be figured out. *g*

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Want a cool headtrip? Consider this:

SG-1 has been in an alternate reality since 2010.

[faithfulpuppy85.livejournal.com]

Yah cause if you really think about it, by sending that letter through saying not to go to that planet, the future ppl changed the past.

[skater-g8r.livejournal.com]

OH crap! O_@ I hadnt even thought of that!! O.O

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

I loved that ep. Great icon!

Time Travel, for me, is something that takes so much handwaving that I'm willing to just go with the flow. ::is so not profound::

[faithfulpuppy85.livejournal.com]

ok. Correct me if I'm wrong but did they end Moebius Pt 2 the same way they ended Threads? With Sam and Jack fishing and Daniel and Teal'c joining later?

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Yes. Why? *blink*

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Yes, it was the same scene, definitely, just a different voiceover when Sam asks about the fish.

I love the 'team vacation' aspect of it. Sweet!

[jenlev.livejournal.com]

all hail the scifi hand wave *waves* which i applied liberally during sg1. that moment when teal'c was watching himself was poignant and very well played. and daniel, very *guh* as he came into the tent. ;)

but can they stop killing daniel now? because it's really hard on my fangirl brain. ;)

so...did you see the preview for season 9? *veg*


elizabeth just rocked in the sga episode. and i loved rodney telling everett to shut up. he was clearly not happy that john took off in the jumper.

[littlekfru.livejournal.com]

Oh god yes I did...scruffy!Danny and Ben in uniform... I wonder if anyone has caps of that yet.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

all hail the scifi hand wave

LOL, really! I almost hurt myself handwaving. The cats were looking dubious. But I was able to enjoy the ep that way.

And yes, I saw the preview for Season 9. Pretty! was my first thought. I like Ben Browder, although not in a groupy fangirly kind of way. But that could change, every easily. Because he is so pretty. And quite talented.

elizabeth just rocked in the sga episode.

I thought so too. I hope she gets more meaty stuff next season. Maybe even go off-world a couple more times!

[miera-c.livejournal.com]

I want SG-1 fic about the four of them stuck back in time. No more rules. No more military. They're never getting home. All. Doors. Open.

;)

I said before I want one of the guys - I don't care which one - to acknowledge that Elizabeth handed herself to the Genii, was blindfolded and handcuffed and talked her way out of it without any help thankyewverymuch.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

I want an all-girl mission next season--Teyla, Weir and Heightmeyer going off-world for some negotiations or something. And the guys can stay home and have sex wait for them to check in.

[mamoru22.livejournal.com]

Rodney was fabulous telling Everett to shut up. And the scientist bitch session in the beginning was even more fabulous. "They don't need us, until they need us."

All the scenes with Everett and McKay were so great. I mean I had my doubts about Everett in the beginning of the ep, but he gets this kind of amused look when McKay and Zelenka get lost in their discoveries...it was just kind of cute. And I mean he was rude and mean to everybody but you could see the grudging respect he gave McKay because McKay was his usually bitchy self. :)

We haven't seen that aspect of his personality since "The Rising", and his interactions with Sumner.

Honestly, I think he has never once stopped that attitude. He simply reworked his routine a little bit to fit it to Weir. The way he smiles at her in the aftermath of Hot Zone, making it so clear that he would disobey her orders again anytime he saw it fit, pure Sheppard.

Then there was the ending, and the damn "So long, Rodney", which broke my heart the first time I saw it, and every time after. Rodney with his big hurty eyes, yes, let's do a closeup and break my heart again. ::grumbles::

That was so great. Honestly, I thought the entire episode was probably the best of the entire season, but this scene. I think they know by now that DH can play up the angst like no one else, so they always like to break our hearts this way.

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Everett was extremely grating in the beginning, definitely a caricature but after he mellowed out I was okay with the character. Especially with the way he treated Rodney, he really did seem kind of amused, didn't he?

Honestly, I think he has never once stopped that attitude.

Maybe you're right. I'm always thinking of his interactions with Rodney, but he's pulled that attitude with Weir enough times, too. He annoyed me with it in "Hot Zone", especially at the end. But when it does it with someone like Everett, I feel like cheering. *g*

I agree that this was a fabulous episode. I love that even in a big action season finale, there were such lovely character moments. And DH's big sad angst. The camera just loves him, doesn't it?

[littlekfru.livejournal.com]

And I'm perfectly willing to accept that the team we see at the is our team, that everything has been reset to before the events in "Mobius I". Even with the fish. Hell, I'm easy.

I agree completely....I figure... Daniel went and got clothes on...Jack helped, the tape was delivered, they watched it and then they went fishing.

As for the AU shippy stuff--well, surprisingly enough, I thought it was kind of cute. Maybe because it was AU, maybe it was because for once it wasn't Jack looking vaguely uncomfortable and Sam hemming and hawing.

*nodsnods* Sam/Jack usually squicks me seriously, but this didn't. It was cute and kind of sweet.

Weir got to do something, finally! The whole Genii thing seemed squeezed in there to give Weir something to do. I'm thinking they could have used overloaded naquada generators, as in "Hot Zone", but still, I liked it. Especially since we had a lovely scene with Rodney and Zelenka putting the final touches on the bombs

*nodsnods* Yeah, the whole Genii thing didn't work for me. And why couldn't they just get new bombs from earth...unless they still can't dial back to earth but Earth can dial to them?

Bastards for leaving us with a cliffhanger until July...that's just mean and evil and bad!

[thegrrrl2002.livejournal.com]

Daniel went and got clothes on...Jack helped, the tape was delivered, they watched it and then they went fishing.

Hee! Maybe they should have had Daniel still wearing the flag. "Jack, can't I go get dressed now?" Jack: "No."

And why couldn't they just get new bombs from earth...unless they still can't dial back to earth but Earth can dial to them?

That's it--they need the ZPM to dial to Earth, but Earth had to use it to power up their gate enough to dial out to them. So they transferred it to the Daedalus to be transported to Atlantis. The Daedalus, I assume, has the hyperdrive engines from the Asgard so it only takes them four days to get there.

But you'd think that Everett would have brought a couple of extra bombs of some sort with him. Missiles, bombs, anything! Surely they had a pretty good idea of what the Wraith were capable of. ::does the plot handwave:: Yeah, but....good ep overall. *g*

Aside from the cliffhanger bit. Evil, definitely evil.

[thepouncer.livejournal.com]

I loved the swoopy camera bits. I've never hated someone so fast as I hated Everett. I wanted to *watch* the Wraith feed on him and gloat over every second of pain. Don't mess with my team, yo!

Sheppard was so thinking "I told you so" when the rock clearance brigade took out the mines. He can't die. He just can't.

[msbeata.livejournal.com]

I wanted to *watch* the Wraith feed on him and gloat over every second of pain.

Yes, and hear him gasp out 'Sheppard was right.' And it is recorded by some kind of Ancient security camera so that John can watch it when he gets back safely from his mission and he can quit feeling guilty about Sumner. And he can keep it to show to any other judgemental asses that show up to give him a hard time about Sumner. ::nods::